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I just went to the bathroom, and on the way, saw a beetle.

irc log from #soc.bi:
astra:      ewww, there is a beetle in our house. it is a long, narrow beetle, about 2cm long x 0.7cm wide. it is black. it has 6 legs, like all beetles, which finish fairly far up its body.
astra:      do i need to panic? :D
HoopyCat:   i bet it's crunchy and yummy
RedWine:    astra: dunno. do you have any pets smaller than the beetle?
astra:      richard was talking about seeing a beetle shaped like that in the street yesterday, and he thought it was a cockroach - that's why i'm now panicking a bit
astra:      but, uh, it doesn't look like the cockroaches in the sims or in animal crossing, so i'm guessing it probably isn't
RedWine:     roaches are brown.
RedWine:    at least, all the roaches I've seen are brown.
Otterylexa: astra: cockroaches are quite variable.
astra:      yeah - in the games, they are brown, and they have long whip-like antennae that come out of their heads and go for most of the length of their bodies
astra:      ewww, so it might be a cockroach? eeek!
Otterylexa: I wouldn't worry if it's an isolated incident, but if they become common, that might be a problem
astra:      i'm not amazingly bug-phobic, but i just prefer not to have them in the house
SamBC:      panicking isn't a good way to deal with roaches
SamBC:      it might not be a cockroach, anyway
SamBC:      it just might be
astra:      (she says, having screamed at the caterpillar on the clothes horse the other day)
astra:      it was okay until i saw the legs. *then* it triggered my millipede/centipede phobia
* Rhialto found a cockroach in the toilets at work, recently.
Rhialto:    I reported it but there is still no signs of exterminators or even removal of the body.
astra:      i just went out with the camera to try to take a photo of it, but it's disappeared. so now, of course, i'm prowling around glaring at all the black fluff on the carpet, in case it moves


and from #cuppajoe:
Cherie:   I *don't* like bugs at all.
baratron: but, uh, it doesn't look like the cockroaches in the sims or in animal crossing, so i'm guessing it probably isn't
Cherie:   LOL
Cherie:   You can always google cockroach images....
Pegasys:  in our first house we had cockroaches but my hubby refused to believe that - he said "Oh, they're just waterbugs."
Cherie:   I did to find out how to get rid of some. Ewww
Pegasys:  http://asl.epfl.ch/research/projects/Leurre/Pictures/HQ/cockroach.jpg
baratron: google cockroach images?! you *have* to be joking!!
baratron: one of my friends posted a photo of _ladybird_ (ladybug) larvae yesterday, and i screamed at them!
Pegasys:  ewww
baratron: and adult ladybirds are adorable, and harmless, and useful
baratron: but their larvae are just... like bug larvae
baratron: icky
Pegasys:  well, they're bugs, right?

Date: 2006-06-12 11:08 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] redbird
Don't panic.

If it is a cockroach, yes they're annoying, but they aren't going to poison you by biting or stinging. Given your sensitivities, if there's more than just one bug-that-can-be-stomped, if you're concerned about what's in the bug poison baits, you might want to arrange to spend a day or two elsewhere before getting an exterminator in. [I don't know if the companies that sell things with names like "roach motel" publish complete lists of what's in them--it might be considered proprietary information, at least in part.]

Date: 2006-06-13 08:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] baratron.livejournal.com
Yeah, I already knew that, even if it was a cockroach, it wouldn't harm me. Mostly, I was posting because I was amused by my own patheticness, and the fact I figured it couldn't be a cockroach based on the appearance of such bugs in video games :)

I think [livejournal.com profile] meirion might be right and it's some sort of flying beetle - I didn't know such things existed, although thinking about it for more than a second, ladybirds are beetles and "everyone" knows ladybirds "fly away home" from the rhyme. The shape of it would seem right for a creature with wings, and it would explain how it got in - we've had any number of interesting moths and butterflies pay us a visit over the past few days when the windows have been wide open to deal with the hot weather, including at least one speckled moth (favourite of GCSE Biology textbooks and exam papers!). Also, the beetle that Richard saw in the street and thought was a cockroach was a lot bigger - 1.5 - 2 inches, rather than cm. (It had fallen on its back with its legs waggling in the air, and Richard rescued it by turning it over.)

Why are cockroaches supposed to be disgusting and horrible, anyway? Is it supposedly a sign that your house hasn't been properly cleaned, or something? Aren't they one of these things that, in other parts of the world, are just endemic and you co-exist with them peacefully?

Date: 2006-06-14 05:29 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] aquaeri.livejournal.com
Thing you probably didn't want to know: some cockroaches can fly. They come in a lot of different sizes. The worst ones (in terms of food contamination) from what I understand are the "german" cockroaches which are fairly small, thin, and very much caramel brown. The size you're describing are the more normal cockroaches. They're usually finely ridged, rather than smooth, and some shade of brown. After that, it's all learning to distinguish cockroaches from beetles and bugs.

Date: 2006-06-12 11:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meirion.livejournal.com
in amazing synchronicity, i just posted a message to cam.misc about flying beetles. whatever the creature you have/had and the ones we've had are quite likely to be the same.

but flying and black together preclude cockroach-ness. flying cockroaches (which are carribean in origin) are mahogany-coloured.

the ones we've had buzzed as well. but perhaps yours escaped before you noticed that?

-m-

Date: 2006-06-13 02:05 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] hattifattener
[livejournal.com profile] jinian found a bunch of pupae while digging in the garden yesterday. I thought they wre pretty cute. They don't do anything, they're busy, errr, pupating I guess. If you mess with them enough they'll sort of wiggle annoyedly.

Date: 2006-06-13 07:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aardvarkoffnord.livejournal.com
Did it look like this?. If so, it was a common black beetle, which can get quite large, but are totally harmless.

I seem to remember a piece of folklore about many black beetles meant a wet summer.

Date: 2006-06-13 07:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] baratron.livejournal.com
Hehe, no. Like you say, that's a common black beetle, and I've seen enough of those.

The diagram was useful though, because it reminded me that just about every beetle I've ever seen has been, uh, (scrabbling for words) - basically the same shape as a ladybird, or an old-style Volkswagen Beetle. Oval. Even a stag beetle is basically the same shape as a ladybird, just a lot bigger and blacker and with the antler-like pincers on the top. This beetle wasn't oval at all - it was rectangular, with slightly rounded corners. Like the shape of a pallisade cell in diagrams of the leaf. I've never seen a rectangular beetle before.

I'm just amused by my own patheticness. I mean, honestly, I'm not particularly scared of arthropods, with the exception of the ones with too many legs or stings. So why did seeing a strange beetle trigger some sort of "oh my God, it must be something sinister, argh, d00m" feeling rather than curiosity? The only thing I can think of is that Richard mentioned seeing what he thought was a cockroach in the street the other day, so the thought of the house being invaded by such beasties was fresh in my mind. Or something.

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